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SAFENET ID:

20191014-0001        [Corrective Actions]

Event Start Date:

10/08/2019 1100

Event Stop Date:

 

Incident Name:

MIDDLE MAMM

Fire Number:

P2MJ09 

State:

Colorado

Jurisdiction:

USFS

Local Unit:

WHITE RIVER

Incident Type:

Wildland

Incident Activity:

Line

Stage of Incident:

Initial Attack

Position Title:

COML 

Task:

CLONING RADIOS 

Management Level:

1

Resources Involved:

ALL 

Contributing Factors

Contributing Factors:

Fire Behavior

Human Factors:

Decision Making  

Other Factors:

 

Narrative

Describe in detail what happened including the concern or potential issue, the environment (weather, terrain, fire behavior, etc), and the resulting health issue.

It was brought to our attention when cloning radios for the Middle Mamm fire in Rifle, Colorado that we had cloned from a Bendix King Model KNG P150-G2, Running version 5.6.0A as well as a P150 Version 5.5.0E to a Bendix King Model DPH, that the User Code Guard was turned on in the CH00 Global Settings of the DPH when that was unintended. This problem has not occurred for us when cloning with a Model KNG 150S. In addition if that DPH radio is used to clone other radios of the Legacy BK models, that those radios suffer the same deficiency or malfunction until it's fixed by turning off the CH00 setting in EACH affected radio or recloning using an unaffected Legacy radio. Upon discussion, we learned that this was a major issue on the 416 and several other fires of 2018 and that it took several days and re-clones to get this "virus" out of the radio network. The BK cloning manual and the cloning instruction manual available on the NIICD website suggests that the scan toggles are in the off position prior to scanning but this has no effect on this problem.

Immediate Action Taken

Reporting Individual : please describe actions you took to correct or mitigate the unsafe/unhealthful event.

Used multiple above-referenced KNG P150s radios in different configurations such as turning on or off both of the Scan toggles in order to test and confirm this issue. Solution: Discontinued use of KNG P150 radios to clone to Legacy radios. And only use a Legacy radio to be the master clone radio on incident communications.

Agency Response

20191014-0001-CA001

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